Aussie Oz

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  WT Elders school: Look how cute that kindly old elder is! Too bad the Talmud says we have to stone our victim anyway

  by sir82 in

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  more haphazard thougths on the recently concluded elder school..... a big chunk of time was spent on a video which traced a judicial case, all the way from the confession to the elders through the decision to disfellowship the guy.. here is a very brief synopsis of the video:.

  tearful late-teen or early-20's publisher confesses to 2 elders that he committed fornication with a "worldly girl" who is now preganant and wants to marry him.

  the elders give him some "homework" to do prior to his judcial committee - read psalm 51 and an old wt article.

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  They gunna get tougher and tougher, and squeeze out the free thinkers, whether elders or Rank and file.

  Tow the party line or get out...

  Oz
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  New video: Stephen Lett warns about "Women's Lip"

  by cedars in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=citaz613koc.

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  cedars.

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  and what would happen if women stopped being in subjection, Stephen Combover?

  They would end up kicking 7 butts out of brooklyn and take over the religion i imagine!

  Oz
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  Did Life Originate By Chance or Intelligent Design? Or is There a Third Option?

  by JimmyPage in

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  when discussing the argument of how life originated the wt always boils it down to being chance vs. intelligent design.. no scientist in their right mind believes it happened by chance.

  nor do most scientists believe that life is a product of god.. there is a solution that the wt completely ignores and that is... natural selection.. how many here who believe in a creator have honestly examined what natural selection really is?.

  (i've been reading "the god delusion" by richard dawkins and was very surprised when i came to the chapter that actually mentions the watchtower society's arguments for intelligent design.

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  Yes there IS a third option that makes far more sense...(to me)

  IT DOES NOT MATTER!

  We are here, more time and effort should be spent working out far more complex and important social issues than arguing about how we got here and when.

  oz
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  Job...less

  by LouBelle in

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  it was about 6 weeks or so ago that i excitedly posted that i had gotten a job that i had been interviewed for.

  in the weeks that have passed i have been in contact trying to find out about my paper work - i still have not gotten a letter of appointment, an offer or a contract.

  i have expressed concern at their lack of professionalism but that falls on deaf ears.

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  Do you really want to work for an organization like that anyway?

  Oz
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  Are They Cynically Shutting Down The Organization?

  by metatron in

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  i've raised this idea before but recent events seem to support it.

  changes in the watchtower may be guided by more than a need for cash flow: they may simply be liquidating/shutting it down as discreetly as possible.. of course, this doesn't mean they stop working on their upstate ny country club - but it could mean that the throrough going exposure and disproof of their beliefs on the internet, when it emerged, took many of them by surprize, as it did many of us!

  after awhile, they generally gave up trying to make any sense of their doctrines - and coupled with cash flow issues - moved towards a quiet retreat.. take a look at a few things:.

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  It would come at no great surprise if a good many religions are controlled by outsiders Mr Flipper.

  Tax free legal money laundering?

  oz
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  The 1919 Date

  by turtleturtle in

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  can someone please give me a neutral explanation of the date 1919?

  can the wt prove 1919 from the bible?

  what about this quote?

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  actually, the 7 trumpet blasts occured as late in time as the 19th of December 2012, 19:19 pm.

  After a great meal of mostly baked beans...

  Oz
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  Frederick Douglas quote speaks to GB's program for JW's

  by Momma-Tossed-Me in

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  it is perfectly well understood...that to educate a slave is to make him discontented.

  with slavery, and to invest him with a power which shall open to him the treasures of freedom;.

  and since the object of the slave- holder is to maintain complete authority over his slave, his.

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  We all know that can be applied to how the GB treat the real slaves of the corporation...

  Is there an application TO the GB since they also call themselves the Faithful SLAVE?

  Oz
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  The New Diary of Winston Smith

  by WinstonSmith in

  1. jw
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  we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

  fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

  i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

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  ''One sister was a successful pioneer and then she came down with depression. She prayed for help to get over it. Soon after she received an invitation to go to Bethel. She was not sure if she could do it due to her condition. She decided to go anyway. A few months later she realised that her depression had disappeared.''

  I realized as a successful Pioneer and Ministerial servant that i was dreadfully depressed. It became worse after I stopped pioneering to raise a family. I prayed and prayed and prayed...

  then I abandoned my religion, left my wife, never went to another meeting and within a few months I realized my depression had disapeared!

  THANKYOU JEHOVAH!

  oz
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  The New Diary of Winston Smith

  by WinstonSmith in

  1. jw
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  we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

  fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

  i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

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  ugh!

  Prayer...one of the first things i realized as I lost my faith was that prayer is nothing but talking to the ceiling.

  Not one single wonderous thing has come from prayer. All that has been good and bad in my life is a direct result of my own efforts.

  Oz

  edit: actually. I can't think of a more stupid concept really. Prayers are never answered how you want them to be, every thing that may be considered an answer is ambiguous and sketchy. If it's a good outcome the prayer was answered if not then Jehovah had his reasons...It is as bad as the old ''god works in mysterious way'' nonsense.

  oh, and all the best with your sister!
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  Please tell us about your weather.

  by compound complex in

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  literal or figurative .

  rain, at long last, has penetrated into the interior of our land and my soul.

  the burning sun of a protracted summer had effectively removed my resolve to get necessary things done.

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  Hot. Dry

  right now I am on my front veranda looking at a grass fire 5 km away in the hills, hoping the wind does not pick up...between me and it is hundreds of acres of wheat ready to harvest. Not worried...

  Thankyou summer lightning storm.

  Oz